In a phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, which bristled with expletives, during the Capitol attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters were more concerned with the election results than McCarthy, CNN reported.
According to lawmakers who were briefed on the call later by McCarthy, Trump told McCarthy that he guessed the people were more upset about the election than he was.
Trump Refused To Call-Off Capitol Rioters New Details Reveal
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump’s supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
Trump’s reaction led to a shouting match between the two men, according to Republican lawmakers. According to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call, the enraged McCarthy told Trump the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows and asked him who he thought he was talking to.
According to newly released details of the call, described to CNN by multiple Republicans briefed on it, it provided critical insight into the President’s state of mind as rioters stormed the Capitol. Punchbowl News was the first to report the existence of the call, and some details of it were discussed publicly by McCarthy.
According to Congress’s Republican members, the exchange showed Trump did not intend to stop the rioters even as lawmakers were pleading for his intervention. It amounted to a dereliction of presidential duty on his part, some said.
He was not a blameless observer; he was rooting for them, a Republican member of Congress said. On January 13, he added that Kevin McCarthy said on the floor of the House that the President bore responsibility, and he did.
Speaking to the President from inside the besieged Capitol, McCarthy asked Trump to call off his supporters, but Trump disagreed with him about the crowd. Trump’s comment that the would-be insurrectionists cared more about the election results than McCarthy did was first mentioned by Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, a Republican from Washington state, earlier this week, in a town hall. It was confirmed to CNN by Herrera Beutler, and other Republicans briefed on the conversation.
Herrera Beutler, who was one of the 10 House Republicans who voted in favor of Trump impeachment, told CNN, one had to look at what he did during the insurrection to confirm where his mind was at. She added that line right there demonstrated to her that either he did not care, which was impeachable, because one could not allow an attack on one’s soil, or one wanted it to happen, and one was OK with it, which made her so angry.
She added it should never be acceptable for any reason, under any party flag, as she voiced her extreme frustration. She added, she was trying really hard not to say the F-word.
Going a step further on Friday night, she called on others to speak up about any other details they might have knowledge of regarding conversations Trump and Pence had on January 6.
She said in a statement to the patriots who were standing next to the former President as the conversations were happening, or even to the former vice president, if they had something to add here, now would be the time.
According to another Republican member of Congress, the call was problematic for Trump.
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, an Ohio Republican, said he thought it spoke to the former President’s mindset. Gonzalez, who also voted to impeach Trump last month added, he (Trump) was not sorry to see his unyieldingly loyal vice president or the Congress under attack by the mob he inspired. He added it seemed he was happy about it or at the least enjoyed the scenes that horrified most Americans across the country.